You think...because your gods are watching... you can't...
[Oof. Big oof. This is tougher than he thought.]
Rowan hasn't told me a lot about that, specifically. But, I guess my question is... why would being with someone you love be considered selfish? How is it wrong?
[Oh no. He is not at all a fan of this part of werewolf culture. He didn't like it when Rowan explained it. He still doesn't. But he also recognizes that it's not his place to challenge it for her. Better to focus on what's relevant to the here and now.]
But if the spirits are watching, then they must know that it's not possible to get pregnant here. Right?
Okay. So, they would be aware that while you are here in this realm, it wouldn't make much difference who you mated with. Right? Because, regardless, you can't fulfill that particular duty.
Uh. Well... judging by what you said earlier? Let's see...
Could be Lilith, I don't know if she's royalty or not but she fits the bill on attitude. I'd say Beau or Glinda but they're together. Same for Peony, she's with Milla last I heard. There's Liz...I don't know too much about her history yet. Or daisy's, or Bree's or many of the other ladies. But Bree said she has a son so not sure what that means for relationships here.
And then there's my most likely candidate: Lexa. I know for a fact she was a leader to her people. And she's as sharp as a tack. And... you know if I think about it, you two would be a nice pair. Same kind of fire in your souls.
[You ever see a turtle retract her head into her shell, Max? Because there's a fully grown Garou trying to replicate that look by retreating into the mess of blankets she has around her. She's just going to flump face forward while she tries not to be mortified.
[Oh no. He slaps a hand over his mouth to stifle a laugh as Ren retreats into the blankets like that. Poor thing. He shouldn't laugh, really. But it's just so cute. She's so young.]
Okay. So, Ren. Tell me exactly what happened with Lexa. You two got in a fight over this, I assume? Have you tried talking to her since it all blew up?
[And then messaged Lexa instead of going in person... Oh. No.
Max takes the tome and reads through it. His face stays utterly blank the whole time, while internally he is cringing hard. That... could have gone better. His heart really goes out to Lexa. After all the tragedy she went through, she's still willing to take a chance on love. Max thinks she has the right idea about this place. Max also thinks the woman has god-like patience.]
Okay... so, the good news is: she is still willing to give it a try with you if you are. But, here's the thing... you need to be sure the next time you talk to her that you're not going to back out again.
This is all or nothing, Ren. You need to be ready to acknowledge her to anyone that asks. You need to be proud to call her yours. And you really need to tell her you're sorry for treating her love like a dirty secret. I think that's where you hurt her most.
If she's really special to you, then act like it all the time, not just the times when it's convenient for you. Okay? Show her she's worth more to you than a reputation that isn't even necessary to keep here. That's what she's asking for.
Oh for fucks sake! Why am I the only one not to have told people!
[Really she was the most likely candidate to break the Veil being the youngest and one of the two dumbest.
She at least has the decency to look vaguely ashamed of herself.] I just....I wanted to know she was okay and I know she would be mad at me still or make me talk about stuff and....it seemed like a good idea at the time?
Blame Milla. She's the one that let slip that Rowan made Me and Lucas their Mates.
[A fact he is STILL getting his head around. But no. Focus. One crisis at a time.]
Doing it because you know she'll want to talk to you is why it's bad! You know she'd be mad at you, so you think sneaking around is the better play? Jesus christ. Ren, you have to talk to her. Actually talk to her. This has gone on way too long.
At this point, you only stand to make her more pissed off the longer you keep her waiting. Ren, she's got an impressive amount of patience but it must be about gone by now. How long ago did this all start?
The 'pool incident' was under a month ago. I apooogised a couple of week ago.
But then Beau said something to Silent about me wanting to fuck Silent even though I absolutely don't want to and ew so I went to set her straight 'nd she kept saying all this shit like 'I know what you did to Lexa' and like that's not her fucking business, the cheeky bitch. She wouldn't even hit me. Fucking rude.
Whoa. Okay. What? Where does Silent come into this?
[Max, keep up, buddy.]
I don't... fuck. I really don't want or need to know who all you want to bang. But, Christ almighty, how did Silent learn about your fight with Lexa? Does Beau know too?
Me 'nd Silent can't fuck 'cos Garou can't fuck each other. That's the Law. Like werewolf law. If we broke that we'd be sent away from our packs 'nd our tribes forever.
Beau was a fuckin' bitch and told Silent that me 'nd her shouldn't fight any more 'cos neither of us is good at controlling ourselves. But that's not true. I'm really good at controlling meself.
So I went down to the ship to tell beau that she was full of shit and she needs to pack in saying shit like that to Silent 'cos now Silent won't fight me no more. 'Cos she thinks I'm wanting to fuck her. Even if I was we properly couldn't. 'Cos not only is she a Red Talon, she's a metis. 'Nd that's even worse than wantin' to be with a woman as far as my lot are concerned.
'Nd Beau said Lexa had been chatting shit to her about what I'd been doin' and I kind of lost me temper but I didn't hit her or anything. I just called her a bitch.
...
I don't think Silent knows. Rowan don't either. I...kind of told them I was into Corbin to make sure they didn't find out about Lexa.
[And that's everything? She thinks?]
Oh. And I picked Corbin 'cos I couldn't remember Harry's name 'nd he was the only lad who I could think of at short notice.
...and I broke the pool.
[This has turned into confession time. Sorry Max.]
And I tried to punch a nerd. But he was magic? So, I didn't actually get to punch 'im.
Werewolves arn't allowed to fuck each other? What? Why? Wouldn't that make it easier? Then you wouldn't have to keep your big secret from your partner... I don't know what a Metis is either...
[This makes no sense to him at all.]
Uh...Ren, don't take this the wrong way? Beau might have a point about the two of you.
[No. Seriously. Beau has absolutely nailed it. Between Ren and Silent, he's not sure who's been the bigger disaster lately. Come on girls, it's not a contest.]
And before you go calling me a bitch for pointing that out, let me just remind you why we are having this conversation right now? To recap: you called someone a bitch, you're actively trying to fight Silent, you broke a pool, in public, because a girl YOU LIKE kissed you, in public. Then you lied about Corbin and dragged him into this thing...
[Dear god, he needs to go check on Corbin next, doesn't he?]
And you only did that because you couldn't remember the guy you would have preferred to lie about's name? Because dragging Harry into this would have been better? No. I'll answer that for you. It wouldn't have.
[Jesus christ. She couldn't remember his name but she wanted to say they were dating? What the hell is Harry supposed to think of THAT? And... who is magic nerd? Does he have a name?]
And to top it all off you're trying to punch complete strangers?? Ren... please, for the love of god? At least find out their names first so I can send them a goddamn basket of cookies later. Do you not realize how bad that sounds?
[He could use a drink or three right now.]
Does any of that sound like it's under control to you?
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:04 pm (UTC)[Oof. Big oof. This is tougher than he thought.]
Rowan hasn't told me a lot about that, specifically. But, I guess my question is... why would being with someone you love be considered selfish? How is it wrong?
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:08 pm (UTC)Because I like lads as much as I like lasses. And I can't have a baby with a women. We're dying out 'nd...I come from a good family. We're warriors.
I've got a responsibility.
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:17 pm (UTC)[Oh no. He is not at all a fan of this part of werewolf culture. He didn't like it when Rowan explained it. He still doesn't. But he also recognizes that it's not his place to challenge it for her. Better to focus on what's relevant to the here and now.]
But if the spirits are watching, then they must know that it's not possible to get pregnant here. Right?
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:23 pm (UTC)[Ren's forehead furrows in deep thought. And this was a class in werewolf school she paid attention in.]
Yyyyyeah? I guess...they would be aware of that.
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-10-09 07:35 pm (UTC)...
[Ren is silent for a moment as she works through that information. She's no theurge. Spirits aren't her speciality. But...it actually seems airtight.]
Yeah?
Yeah. Oh fuck. Max. You're a fuckin' genius.
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:45 pm (UTC)Maybe it does? He's not sure. He better check.]
Thanks. I think.
So, you're going to go for it? You're going to try letting this woman you very clearly like have a shot at something more than just a fling?
By the way, are you going to tell me the name of this lucky lass? I have some guesses but, uh, I'd rather be clear about it.
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Date: 2020-10-09 07:56 pm (UTC)I wanna know your guess first.
[She needs to know how obvious she's been.]
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Date: 2020-10-09 08:12 pm (UTC)Could be Lilith, I don't know if she's royalty or not but she fits the bill on attitude. I'd say Beau or Glinda but they're together. Same for Peony, she's with Milla last I heard. There's Liz...I don't know too much about her history yet. Or daisy's, or Bree's or many of the other ladies. But Bree said she has a son so not sure what that means for relationships here.
And then there's my most likely candidate: Lexa. I know for a fact she was a leader to her people. And she's as sharp as a tack. And... you know if I think about it, you two would be a nice pair. Same kind of fire in your souls.
[He raises an eyebrow at her.]
Well? Am I off the mark?
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Date: 2020-10-09 08:17 pm (UTC)Who knew Ren was capable of blushing?
Muffled;] It's Lexa.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-10-09 08:31 pm (UTC)[Oh no. He slaps a hand over his mouth to stifle a laugh as Ren retreats into the blankets like that. Poor thing. He shouldn't laugh, really. But it's just so cute. She's so young.]
Okay. So, Ren. Tell me exactly what happened with Lexa. You two got in a fight over this, I assume? Have you tried talking to her since it all blew up?
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Date: 2020-10-09 08:52 pm (UTC)Yeah. I sent her a cake 'nd we wrote to each other 'cos sometimes I lose my temper. Thought that was smarter. But...it didn't go so good.
[She turns to where she discarded her tome and turns to the series of messages that she's had with Lexa a few weeks ago and offers it to Max.]
I apologised. I...freaked out a bit. She kissed us outside and...I kinda broke the pool.
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Date: 2020-10-09 09:12 pm (UTC)[And then messaged Lexa instead of going in person... Oh. No.
Max takes the tome and reads through it. His face stays utterly blank the whole time, while internally he is cringing hard. That... could have gone better. His heart really goes out to Lexa. After all the tragedy she went through, she's still willing to take a chance on love. Max thinks she has the right idea about this place. Max also thinks the woman has god-like patience.]
Okay... so, the good news is: she is still willing to give it a try with you if you are. But, here's the thing... you need to be sure the next time you talk to her that you're not going to back out again.
This is all or nothing, Ren. You need to be ready to acknowledge her to anyone that asks. You need to be proud to call her yours. And you really need to tell her you're sorry for treating her love like a dirty secret. I think that's where you hurt her most.
If she's really special to you, then act like it all the time, not just the times when it's convenient for you. Okay? Show her she's worth more to you than a reputation that isn't even necessary to keep here. That's what she's asking for.
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Date: 2020-10-09 10:50 pm (UTC)[Ren tucks her knees up to her chest.]
'Cos I didn't want to get angry and give her a reason to be scared of me.
I've been checkin' in on her since that. But not telling her its me. So that she doesn't catch on that it's me.
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Date: 2020-10-09 10:58 pm (UTC)[He drags his hands down his face.]
When you say check on her... how do you mean?
[Max is screaming internally because please do not tell him you went wolf on her and STALKED HER.]
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Date: 2020-10-10 05:10 am (UTC)....only problem is, she might know I can do that cos of Silent and her big mouth.
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Date: 2020-10-10 05:36 am (UTC)[Max is just screaming internally. It's fine.]
Ren. You have to stop doing that right now. If there's even a chance she knows it's you... do you have any idea how pissed that's going to make her?
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Date: 2020-10-10 05:44 am (UTC)[Really she was the most likely candidate to break the Veil being the youngest and one of the two dumbest.
She at least has the decency to look vaguely ashamed of herself.] I just....I wanted to know she was okay and I know she would be mad at me still or make me talk about stuff and....it seemed like a good idea at the time?
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Date: 2020-10-10 05:52 am (UTC)[A fact he is STILL getting his head around. But no. Focus. One crisis at a time.]
Doing it because you know she'll want to talk to you is why it's bad! You know she'd be mad at you, so you think sneaking around is the better play? Jesus christ. Ren, you have to talk to her. Actually talk to her. This has gone on way too long.
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Date: 2020-10-10 06:11 am (UTC)[Ren whines and it's a distinctly Not Human noise but sometimes it really is easier to express yourself as a wolf than a human.]
But what if she's pissed off with us?
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Date: 2020-10-10 06:23 am (UTC)At this point, you only stand to make her more pissed off the longer you keep her waiting. Ren, she's got an impressive amount of patience but it must be about gone by now. How long ago did this all start?
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Date: 2020-10-10 06:32 am (UTC)But then Beau said something to Silent about me wanting to fuck Silent even though I absolutely don't want to and ew so I went to set her straight 'nd she kept saying all this shit like 'I know what you did to Lexa' and like that's not her fucking business, the cheeky bitch. She wouldn't even hit me. Fucking rude.
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Date: 2020-10-10 07:03 pm (UTC)[Max, keep up, buddy.]
I don't... fuck. I really don't want or need to know who all you want to bang. But, Christ almighty, how did Silent learn about your fight with Lexa? Does Beau know too?
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Date: 2020-10-10 08:07 pm (UTC)Me 'nd Silent can't fuck 'cos Garou can't fuck each other. That's the Law. Like werewolf law. If we broke that we'd be sent away from our packs 'nd our tribes forever.
Beau was a fuckin' bitch and told Silent that me 'nd her shouldn't fight any more 'cos neither of us is good at controlling ourselves. But that's not true. I'm really good at controlling meself.
So I went down to the ship to tell beau that she was full of shit and she needs to pack in saying shit like that to Silent 'cos now Silent won't fight me no more. 'Cos she thinks I'm wanting to fuck her. Even if I was we properly couldn't. 'Cos not only is she a Red Talon, she's a metis. 'Nd that's even worse than wantin' to be with a woman as far as my lot are concerned.
'Nd Beau said Lexa had been chatting shit to her about what I'd been doin' and I kind of lost me temper but I didn't hit her or anything. I just called her a bitch.
...
I don't think Silent knows. Rowan don't either. I...kind of told them I was into Corbin to make sure they didn't find out about Lexa.
[And that's everything? She thinks?]
Oh. And I picked Corbin 'cos I couldn't remember Harry's name 'nd he was the only lad who I could think of at short notice.
...and I broke the pool.
[This has turned into confession time. Sorry Max.]
And I tried to punch a nerd. But he was magic? So, I didn't actually get to punch 'im.
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Date: 2020-10-10 08:56 pm (UTC)[This makes no sense to him at all.]
Uh...Ren, don't take this the wrong way? Beau might have a point about the two of you.
[No. Seriously. Beau has absolutely nailed it. Between Ren and Silent, he's not sure who's been the bigger disaster lately. Come on girls, it's not a contest.]
And before you go calling me a bitch for pointing that out, let me just remind you why we are having this conversation right now? To recap: you called someone a bitch, you're actively trying to fight Silent, you broke a pool, in public, because a girl YOU LIKE kissed you, in public. Then you lied about Corbin and dragged him into this thing...
[Dear god, he needs to go check on Corbin next, doesn't he?]
And you only did that because you couldn't remember the guy you would have preferred to lie about's name? Because dragging Harry into this would have been better? No. I'll answer that for you. It wouldn't have.
[Jesus christ. She couldn't remember his name but she wanted to say they were dating? What the hell is Harry supposed to think of THAT? And... who is magic nerd? Does he have a name?]
And to top it all off you're trying to punch complete strangers?? Ren... please, for the love of god? At least find out their names first so I can send them a goddamn basket of cookies later. Do you not realize how bad that sounds?
[He could use a drink or three right now.]
Does any of that sound like it's under control to you?
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